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    Post by Laszlo Janos Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:27 pm

    Hi,

    We some months ago started making the iR system for nK PRO. Now the first beta test started.

    Some feature:
    -Safety Rating, calculated from flags, and car contacts.
    -nkRating (same with iRating), calculated from strenght of fields and finish position.
    -lots of races /days
    -licence system from rookie to A (on future maybe PRO)
    -auto starting order from qualification results.
    etc...

    now, maybe some bugs in the system, please find it! Very Happy

    website:
    www.nkworld.net
    please read the Wiki at the website.



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    Post by Laszlo Janos Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:00 pm

    This week only qualifing and single race sessions. From next week (2011.01.17) staring the beta championships. If you like start a bigger licenced chaps, you can collect safety rating this week.
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    Post by Paul O'Brien Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:38 pm

    Well nice Idea .. but I cant stand the 1600 and I can't be arsed doing races for a license since I am already not a bad racer. I also dont know what kunos would think of it, and also I don't know would iracing consider it a breach of copyright.
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    Post by Gianluca Bonifacio Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:43 pm

    nice project! i have to register me on site with the same name as the license nkpro, or i can use a nickname?!
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    Post by Laszlo Janos Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:46 pm

    We don't know who is a bad or good racer.

    If system working, lots of races, and hopefully the people more like the netkar, because same with iRacing, and more cheaper. If people like, mor customer for Kunos. If no good this for Kunos, we stop the project.

    We not use iRacing logo or anything. the Game developers all time copy from other the features.

    Please help testing, we very need a beta testers.
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    Post by Laszlo Janos Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:47 pm

    Gianluca Bonifacio wrote:nice project! i have to register me on site with the same name as the license nkpro, or i can use a nickname?!

    U can use nickname. Just fill out the Guid field in the Profil.
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    Post by Steve Crawnshaw Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:54 pm

    Neat idea. Not sure how this all works though. I don't see the F1600 short version of Prato in the netkar server list but it's on your list.
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    Post by Laszlo Janos Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:03 pm

    Please read the Wiki.
    http://nkworld.wikispaces.com/
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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:41 pm

    Nice idea guys and very nicely done.

    One thing took me a while to understand was where was my server Smile
    I kept refreshing but I didn't see my server. Then I though: if the server is started automatically I will never seen it because of a bug in the server list! If you use the refresh button, in fact, it doesn't load the new servers.

    So, as a quick guide for everyone:
    1) select your race on their website
    2) when the time on the website is the same of your race, the website will tell you which server to join
    3) you will find your server online. If you are already in the server list page, don't press refresh, will not work. Just go back and open the server list again. You will find your server.
    4) have fun in you race!


    Can you give a some more details about the way your nkrating is calculated?
    and what about your safety rating?

    with our team we where thinking about a nkrating concept and strength of field also (the log analyzer you have maybe heard about).I've been studying the iRacing sportive code, among other rating system to propose something like this.

    I'm really glad you have done it guys. Some of the ideas are really brilliant. Well done!
    I hope you will open you system to other websites, so everyone can host a server with rating.

    If you guys want we can have a chat. We had some ideas also, so eventually we can give you some hint. I like your website very much!

    One note: I just joined one of your server just to try it out. The ping was terrible! 800+. It was the same for other users also.
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    Post by davide zardin Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:38 am

    quindi se non ho capito male per accedere per ipotesi alla KS2 bisogna prima conseguire dei punteggi che vengono registrati sul sito sulla base del comportamento in pista e del risultato finale...
    la cosa sembra interessante ma non mi è ancora chiaro il funzionamento generale del sito.
    prima di iscrivermi vorrei ancora capire se le piste sono solo le 4 che ho visto o si può correre su tutte?
    poi non caspisco perchè creare gruppi di simracer simili
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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:41 pm

    nice to have:
    - show who is registered to the race.
    - automatically register for the following races on the same server. if the user disconnect from the server, it will be unregistered automatically from the following races. This will help having more people on track.
    - show statistics about all the users
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    Post by Stuart Whitehead Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:00 pm

    Fantastic to see someone developing an iRacing style system for nKPro Smile Safety rating and grouping races by iRating is exactly why I prefer iRacing to nKPro these days. This is what could get me back racing nKPro on a more regular basis.

    As soon as 1.3 is released I'll sign up to your site and check it out. Good luck with developing the system!


    Andrea... If this works in the same way as iRacing then showing who is registered for a race is a bad idea. It leads to people not entering races they know they wont do well in as they wont gain much rating. Anyone who's tried iRacing will understand that showing who is registered for a race is not a good idea.
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    Post by Laszlo Janos Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:05 pm

    Thx, the ideas.

    We working on system, just we have a real life job, and only after can working on nkworld.

    We found some little and some big bugs, thx for the beta tester, please testing more.

    -Championships with all car, and detailed statistic.
    -Hotlap Charts
    -More Approved Tracks
    -Detailed Ranking
    -Other improvements, and more and more ideas, just we need a more time.
    Very Happy
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    Post by laurent resende Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:29 pm

    FRENCH:peut etre pour les pilotes qui manquent d'assurance Stuart, mais pour ceux qui aime relever les défis il est toujours intéressant de courir avec des pilotes plus fort que soi, et également de savoir s'il est intéressant ou pas de participer a une course avec des pilotes qui ne respecte pas le code sportifEng :Can be for drivers who lack insurance Stuart, but for those who enjoys the challenges it is always interesting to run with drivers stronger than itself, and also whether it is interesting or not to participate a race with drivers that do not meet the sporting code
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    Post by Marco Calesella Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:14 pm

    Hi, very nice and interesting project.

    Only one question. I registered this morning but still not received the account activation email.

    Already checked SPAM folder etc, email adress is regularly working, so I'm asking if it's normal to have to wait so long or if there is definitely a problem with my registration.
    If you need more information I can send you what you need via PM.

    Any help will be appreciated.

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    Post by Laszlo Janos Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:50 pm

    No need wait a long time, max 10 minutes. I send you pm about 20:30 today.
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    Post by Gianluca Bonifacio Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:29 pm

    Laszlo is it possible to change user name?!
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    Post by Marco Calesella Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:24 am

    Laszlo Janos wrote:No need wait a long time, max 10 minutes. I send you pm about 20:30 today.

    OK, finally message arrived, don't know why it took such a lot of time.
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    Post by Attilio Barba Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:41 am

    janos, Ihave registered the morning today, but eamiol dont arrived
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    Post by Laszlo Janos Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:03 am

    Please write for me in PM the following informations:

    User Name*
    Password*
    Email Address*
    Hide Email? yes, no

    I register you manualy.
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    Post by paul thomas Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:35 am

    Having lots of fun with this Thanks Laszlo 1 hr till the nxt quali session for the target.

    Now am having to practice offline for the nxt session would it be possible to have practice servers up, may be Andrea could help you out here if your limited on servers?

    We really need to encourage people to practice online instead of hotlapping offline.
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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:43 am

    As I said at the beginning we would love to have our server using this new method!

    If you guys are interested we will give you full support with our server.

    We have plenty of ideas also on the nkrating also.
    We can have a quick chat and see if some of them can be incorporated in your new method.


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    Post by paul thomas Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:02 am

    I was thinking if its ok with Laszlo diff groups ie us and DI could host diff cars so we could have more races more often.

    If its possible to synchronise them.
    One suggestion I have is to have different licenses for different cars or the very least 1 licence for open wheeler and one for tintops. (this is a popular suggestion on the iracing forums) just an idea!

    Lastly how about making a post on http://www.racedepartment.com/netkar-pro/

    Ive pm Darin Gangi from insidesim racing hope u dont mind


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    Post by Laszlo Janos Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:39 am

    hopefully we can start a I. Beta Championships at this weekend:

    All champ in rookie, for easier beta testing.
    After beta plan:

    Rookie chmps: 10 laps races
    Demo (f1600 and demo tracks)
    f1600 (f1600 and more tracks)
    abarth rookie (abarth and easy tracks)

    D chmps: 12-15 laps races
    abarth (abarth and medium dificult tack)
    f1800

    C: 15-20 laps
    f2000

    B:
    ftarget

    A:
    ks2

    PRO:
    diferents cars, one race/week and more ideas

    FUN:
    first fun chmp:
    Road to ks2 (from f1600 to ks2, trough all open wheel car)

    We making a timetable for easier race planning for users.

    and more updates, and ideas...

    Just please more beta testing, because if no testing no bug fixing. (we can't find a bugs)




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    Post by paul thomas Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:24 am

    I wonder to be on the safe side you could change safety rating to say Race craft just in case Iracing have "safety rating" under copyright

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