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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:10 pm

    30 Jun 2011: Valencia Valenciagp

    I forgot to open a post before. sorry for that!
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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:31 pm

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    Sunny race tonight
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    Post by davide zardin Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:07 am

    grande gara stasera è andato tutto bene mi sono divertitocomplimenti a tutti per l'impegno e la correttezza
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    Post by M Waechter Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:05 am

    replay of the race:
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    puhh what a quite tough race.. on that street circuit thing 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 659651 ,
    ..I'm getting to old (also I'm not that fit at the moment) for this Wink, my nerves (pulse) were/was at the limit this time Shocked bom .
    It was overall a good race -some nice fights/overtaking stuff also again and again, so it was not that boring like many of the other races-, just a bit sad that
    someone behind me at the beginning (lap 2) crashed into my car's rear (chain-reaction thing of three cars after a straight on the brakes.. as the guy
    in front of me made a mistake), I could drive back to the pits to fix the car, but of course lost some time and positions at the very beginning because of this.
    In the very last laps I touched the wall a bit two times and destroyed the driveability of my car, so that I got slower in the last laps and lost a position
    to P.C. Structures who was some seconds close behind me.
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    Post by Piers Structures Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:58 am

    I was looking forward to this race. I'd managed to put in enough time to learn the track and develop a stable and reasonably fast set-up, even getting up to the giddy heights of 12th on the Rank. Sadly I didn't match that performance in qualifying - a full second off my PB which put me 10th on the grid, but I was hoping a reasonable, consistent race pace would gain me some places. I never got to fully test that hope.

    Off the start I was hit from behind into the first corner. Back to the pits then on the out-lap from that I was hit from behind again 3/4 way round the circuit, so that put me back to last, 1 lap down, in the pits without having completed a lap. I was a bit miffed. Clive Melbourne joined me after some troubles and soon made the pass. I managed to stay out of more trouble and on the track for the rest of the race eventually clawing my way back up to 10th and finishing a fraction behind Davide Zardin. Another lap and I think I would have had that 9th spot.

    All in all an enjoyable race despite the frustrations.
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    Post by Fabio Grippa Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 pm

    So....first of all thanks to all and to radiators for the great race....my apology If I was too "warm" at the end of the race...

    Qualify: during qualify I couldn't feel very well the car, I then decided to do a few laps with very low downforce, than as I went back to my high downforce set-up I did largely my PB going up to 2nd place.

    Race: in T1 I was comfotably second, then I was hit at the back from my team mate Antonio...just a little touch that was detected just by me, in which I got a little damaged on the suspension (steering wheel not straight for half race!).

    In T2 Antonio was outside and we had a second touch, this times detected just from him (see log...)...he got a damaged which forced him to go to box... in my opinion just two race accident; at the end of the race he blamed me for the accidents, which doesn't make sense, as in T1 was not my fault and in T2 he couldn't overtake me at outside...anyway, not a big issue..I'm fine and if race director will decide for some penalitis I will accept them (I hope nothing will be done...)

    What is clear is that in T1 people doesn't respect the 5 corners rules...

    I did a very good race comfortably in 2nd position, staying as close as possible to Gek. With 3 laps to go my gap from Gek went from 20 to 9 second, so I decided to push as much as I could in case he got some damaged. I went close to Potapenko which was 3 times lapped, and I tried to pass him after T2. He moved to the left to let me pass, but for some reason he kept full throttle and force me to go out of the track to avoid him, then when entering the track, we get in touch....
    I think it was a mistake from him, but I would accept his apology, sorry if after the race I strongly balme you (anyway in a polite way, we are gentelmen!!)...

    I went to pit to repair the car and Antonio pass me...I was finally 3th. I think it was one of the best race in my netkar carrer, it is not common to be within 10s of gap with Gek after 35 laps of race...Just sad for the accident with Potaenko...
    Good race also for Antonio which was really fast and to Gianca/Andrea, really fast here...


    Thanks again to all for racing....se you maybe in Silverston (if I will be not in holiday)...
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    Post by Antonio Lallo Fri Jul 01, 2011 3:19 pm

    Non sono affatto d'accordo! 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 274234 Nella prima curva, come da replay, sono sul cordolo quindi se mai ti avessi colpito è stato lag, ma nella seconda curva mi vieni letteralmente addosso, stringendomi malamente sul muro! Si vede chiaramente che giro largo dopo la T1 per darti spazio...ma fai una manovra alla Simoncelli con Pedrosa...ed ero attaccato al muro, non capisco perchè non avrei potuto essere lì, che facevo inchiodavo per lasciarti passare e causare casino dietro in pieno rettifilo? Il mio replay è chiarissimo. Quel che è giusto è giusto! In fin dei conti, dato il risultato positivo, non mi interessa molto, sono cose che capitano, ma bisogna essere obiettivi... Razz Comunque per me bella gara, non giravo così bene dallo scorso anno, grazie anche a tutti, molto corretti nei duelli! 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 663941 Ed ecco cosa vedo io:
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    Post by Andrea Lojelo Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:09 pm

    ma non eravate compagni di squadra voi due? scratch va bene...retrocessi in ultima posizione, e -50 punti per il team, cosi' imparate a litigare lol!


    scherzi a parte complimenti a tutti e due. Impossibile prendervi. C'ho provato per un po' con Fabio, che scopro ora aver avuto una sospensione rotta, ma non riuscivo ad avvicinarmi. Dopo un po' ho capito che era meglio non rischiare troppo e conservare la 3a posizione.
    Peccato che dopo meta' gara e' arrivato Antonio che si avvicinava con ritmo galoppante, e che appena mi ha passato e' sparito all'orizzonte.
    Davvero veloci, tutti e due.

    Bella gara, mi sono divetito molto, ho fatto il mio PB e portato a casa un quarto posto, col mio compagno di squadra Giancarlo dietro di me in 5a. Non male!

    Bel duello all'inizio con Franky, peccato, pero' che sia finito male per lui. Staccatona al limite, per lui, e barriere. Peccato davvero.
    Sarebbe stata una bella lotta.

    Per il resto tutti molto puliti, e rispettosi. Bella gara.
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    Post by Antonio Lallo Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:15 pm

    Andrea, io non chiedo nessuna penalità...dato che cerco sempre di essere corretto metto in chiaro il mio punto di vista! Surprised Resta pur sempre una delle migliori tra le ultime gare, divertente molto di più del vero gran premio. Durante la risalita tutti son stati correttissimi, il gruppo A si vede in queste cose, complimenti e un grazie a Fulvio per i suoi consigli di setup! 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 981548
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    Post by Fabio Grippa Fri Jul 01, 2011 4:50 pm

    In fondo anche Button e Hamilton sono copagni di squadra...

    Ripeto, per me solo 2 incidenti di gara, peraltro entrambi rilevati da un solo pilota alla volta, e con quindi un poco di lag...non avrei polemizzato su nulla...ma sentirmi addossare la colpa...in T1 si vede bene quando vengo colpito dopo una staccata un po' suicida a ruote fumanti da parte tua (nel tuo camera car sono un po' distante , ma si vede comunque lo scossone alla mia auto), in T2, dal mio camera car ti lascio spazio e sto piu' interno che posso...non posso mica volare (per ora :-))...
    Ad ogni modo buon risultato e buona gara per entrambi....per me non c'è nessun problema...stretta di mano virtuale alla webber e Vettel l'hanno scorso :-) ok?
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    Post by Antonio Lallo Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:53 pm

    Ruote fumanti,? Dalla barra giù si vede che non freno al massimo e dal camera car nessuna ruota è bloccata... Razz Comunque, normale me la sia presa di più io...ho avuto un gap di 32 sec alla fine del 1 giro! 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 78373 Netkar c'ha sicuramente messo del suo, aspettiamo queste nuove collisioni...e ora peace and love, la gara è finita bene che meglio non poteva, dimentichiamo questo episodio 30 Jun 2011: Valencia 985276 Fusione digitale ha bisogno di più punti possibili, non lotte fratricide, che i tizi del Redline team non scherzano mika! ahahah! lol!
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    Post by paolo taradash Fri Jul 01, 2011 6:13 pm

    good race for me, even if the 7th place could be better. i started very well an i was 5th at the T1. unfortunately, the leading group (contact between grippa and lallo), braking hard. i did the same to avoid collision, but someone hit my in the back. immediately i felt the wheel lighter, anyway try to go on but when graziano begin to push me hard, i spin with a suspension damaged. graziano was able to avoid me, batina no. sorry simon. box to fix the car, 10th place... then i begun my comeback, passing waechter and dmjtri. another mistake in the 35th lap, luckily clive was behind enough to mantain my 7th final place.
    nelle qualifiche ho cercato di fare subito un buon giro, poi ho provato col pieno perchè non avevo potuto prima... :-D
    buona gara anche se potevo anche lottare per il 5° posto penso. la partenza è stata ottima e sono passato dal 9° della griglia al 5° alla T1. a causa del contatto tra fabio e antonio, c'è stato un brusco rallentamento. ho frenato forte anche io per non colpire nessuno ma sono stato tamponato (non so da chi). il volante lo sentivo più leggero ma ho provato a andare avanti, appena però graziano mi è arrivato alle spalle veloce ho provato a accelerare il ritmo ma mi sono subito girato (c'era una sospensione danneggiata). graziano è stato bravo ad evitarmi, batina non è riuscito...mi spiace simon.
    esc e box per sistemare i danni e torno in pista 10°, buona rimonta e sorpassi ai danni di waechter e dmytri. poi altro errore bischero di distrazione al 35° giro...ma per fortuna clive era sufficientemente attardato per non soffiarmi la settima posizione. bella gara e tutto tranquillo e corretto.
    p.s. penso che anche il contatto grippa-lallo sia uno di quelli che ci stanno ;-)
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    Post by Piers Structures Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:43 pm

    M Waechter wrote:replay of the race:

    Thanks for the replay. So it was Vyacheslav Potapenko who hit me into turn 2 (1) at the start and then Clive Melbourne took me out after I'd rejoined in T17.

    Forgive and forget IMO. VP was IMO a real gent the rest of the race, giving track where appropriate but not slowing inappropriately or dangerously. Clive, well he was genuinely faster, could have waited a couple of corners but ... such is life, we all make mistakes and I can hope that others will forgive me mine.

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