the problem is the weight transfer is too much when you brake. all the weight is shifted to the front of the car, allowing the rear to step out and slide massively. you can combat this by increasing the (front) slow bump and (rear) slow rebound. it may also help to loosen off the differential coast and preload.
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Max Caputi
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M Carey
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17 May 2012: Sepang
MikaRaymond- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
that doesnt work
the problem is the weight transfer is too much when you brake. all the weight is shifted to the front of the car, allowing the rear to step out and slide massively. you can combat this by increasing the (front) slow bump and (rear) slow rebound. it may also help to loosen off the differential coast and preload.
the problem is the weight transfer is too much when you brake. all the weight is shifted to the front of the car, allowing the rear to step out and slide massively. you can combat this by increasing the (front) slow bump and (rear) slow rebound. it may also help to loosen off the differential coast and preload.
M Waechter- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
I've no problem at my car-balance. Maybe, as already said, use full coast (and caster) for example and keep the aero-balance at an appropiate value (x.x(front) ), when using equal HZ values for front and rear. Sometiomes the rear slides too much on braking at the turn before the second (last) straight -I solved that by balancing the car with better packer values (more packer to the front)-, but in general I find this car to be the most stable of all winged cars in NKPro. But of course I already did an almost 'perfect' setup, I even improved my suspension setting this season a bit compared to the season(s) before at all cars.
Unfortunately I still have the problem of losing grip after one or two hotlaps, because of tire-overheating I guess, mainly at this area some drivers still seem to be better.
No, not such problem there (I guess), but it's the same issue we had at some time back at a version of the Spa 2010 track, I think it was corrected then in a further update of the Spa track.
Just make sure your hotlap starts at the regular start/finish-line after a completed outlap and not somewhere else already at the outlap (at pit exit) when coming out of the box.
Unfortunately I still have the problem of losing grip after one or two hotlaps, because of tire-overheating I guess, mainly at this area some drivers still seem to be better.
MikaRaymond wrote:is this a similar problem we had with hungaroring too? because that track had the same problem and pitting put you a lap down for some reason
No, not such problem there (I guess), but it's the same issue we had at some time back at a version of the Spa 2010 track, I think it was corrected then in a further update of the Spa track.
Just make sure your hotlap starts at the regular start/finish-line after a completed outlap and not somewhere else already at the outlap (at pit exit) when coming out of the box.
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Luca Mosca- ---
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Matt Dawson wrote:Andrea Lojelo wrote:Guys, please be careful because there is an issue on the pitlane naming, so you might do your best lap going out from pit.
Please make sure your best lap isn't done this way in the prequalifications. It's pretty objvious if this is happening from the lap times.
Same for the qualification on the racing day. If we will notice anyone doing it we will penalize. You are all warned.
Yeah, I just did that -_-
Can you remove my last time please...
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M Carey- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Isn't it possible to re-name in KOF then issue an update?Andrea Lojelo wrote:Because the pitlane isn't named correctly, your lap time starts on the pit exit instead of the start line (that is quite far away).
I tried to contact Gary in the past about it but he never open my PM. Does anyone have his contact details? Maybe we can ask for an update.
Matt Dawson- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Luca Mosca wrote:Matt Dawson wrote:Andrea Lojelo wrote:Guys, please be careful because there is an issue on the pitlane naming, so you might do your best lap going out from pit.
Please make sure your best lap isn't done this way in the prequalifications. It's pretty objvious if this is happening from the lap times.
Same for the qualification on the racing day. If we will notice anyone doing it we will penalize. You are all warned.
Yeah, I just did that -_-
Can you remove my last time please...
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Umm it's still showing the wrong time in live timing...?
My PB is a 2:02.3xx
Luca Mosca- ---
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Matt Dawson wrote:Luca Mosca wrote:Matt Dawson wrote:Andrea Lojelo wrote:Guys, please be careful because there is an issue on the pitlane naming, so you might do your best lap going out from pit.
Please make sure your best lap isn't done this way in the prequalifications. It's pretty objvious if this is happening from the lap times.
Same for the qualification on the racing day. If we will notice anyone doing it we will penalize. You are all warned.
Yeah, I just did that -_-
Can you remove my last time please...
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Umm it's still showing the wrong time in live timing...?
My PB is a 2:02.3xx
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
La mia skin per la formula 2000
http://radiators-champ.com/download/public/skins/Gek6.zip
http://radiators-champ.com/download/public/skins/Gek6.zip
M Waechter- Driver
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- Post n°34
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
btw. as I said "full caster" in my prev. posting:
I noticed that with high caster (at 15) the ff-bar is almost always at the maximum with this car (it is the highest caster of all cars so that's why it happens even 'more' here at the F2000), so you lose some of the detailed ff information on your wheel on high caster, though ff-gain is already set to minimum (0.500).. . I think that is not done correctly with that car in NKPro for this car, ..there should be less ff-gain available for this particular car to get all the ff detail also at a high caster setting.
Not a big issue (bug) -you still have some ff in the middle pos. of the wheel-, but worth to mention anyway, because in corners at just some more steering the bar is always on top even at lowest 0.500 ff-gain.
I noticed that with high caster (at 15) the ff-bar is almost always at the maximum with this car (it is the highest caster of all cars so that's why it happens even 'more' here at the F2000), so you lose some of the detailed ff information on your wheel on high caster, though ff-gain is already set to minimum (0.500).. . I think that is not done correctly with that car in NKPro for this car, ..there should be less ff-gain available for this particular car to get all the ff detail also at a high caster setting.
Not a big issue (bug) -you still have some ff in the middle pos. of the wheel-, but worth to mention anyway, because in corners at just some more steering the bar is always on top even at lowest 0.500 ff-gain.
MarcoLM- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Fabio Grippa- Driver
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- Post n°36
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Marco, why do you have to use that so much high caster? It led just to the steering reaction, the car will not behave in different way by chancing that parameter...
Ivan_Buranovsky- Driver
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- Post n°37
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Why doesn't work server Radiator's?
M Waechter- Driver
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Fabio Grippa wrote:Marco, why do you have to use that so much high caster? It led just to the steering reaction, the car will not behave in different way by chancing that parameter...
Don't know, especially with this car I am quickest with using all of the catser (more stable on the lines through corners), I tried 8 and 12 and even with that just 3 klicks less my laptimes were slower, but I'll try it again. Which value do you use ?
Ivan_Buranovsky- Driver
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- Post n°39
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
When prequalification end? In the first post it is written 17 in 23 59 on Wednesday. But Wednesday is 16. Sorry my bad english.
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
yes. sorry..it will end on wed 16th (tonight)
Andrea Lojelo- ---
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
guys, please make sure you are allocated for the race.
here is the entry list
here is the entry list
Ivan_Buranovsky- Driver
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- Post n°42
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Barba Attilio cut turn in Fastest lap. Take it into consideration.
Clive Melbourne- Driver
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- Post n°43
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Ivan_Buranovsky wrote:Barba Attilio cut turn in Fastest lap. Take it into consideration.
Yes this can be seen easily by his sector times
Fabio Grippa- Driver
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- Post n°44
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Luca, can you please delete my best time 1.01.5xx? I did it in race simulation, not considering I was going out from the pit...sorry for that...My current PB is then 1.01.8xx
Thanks a lot
Thanks a lot
Fabio Grippa- Driver
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- Post n°45
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Andrea, do we have to send the PB replay? I have it in case you need...
MikaRaymond- Driver
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- Post n°46
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
i have my replay too, where i set my PB on the server last night. however the live timing hasnt been updated?
Luca Mosca- ---
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- Post n°47
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Fabio Grippa wrote:Luca, can you please delete my best time 1.01.5xx? I did it in race simulation, not considering I was going out from the pit...sorry for that...My current PB is then 1.01.8xx
Thanks a lot
ok
Luca Mosca- ---
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Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
DoneIvan_Buranovsky wrote:Barba Attilio cut turn in Fastest lap. Take it into consideration.
Matt Dawson- Driver
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- Post n°49
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
No need to submit any replays this time
Max Caputi- Driver
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- Post n°50
Re: 17 May 2012: Sepang
Noto con piacere che stasera non saremo pochissimi nel Server B I'm glad to see that tonight i'll be not so alone in Server B lol
PS: Errore nella locandina di presentazione...F1800 ;-)
PS: Errore nella locandina di presentazione...F1800 ;-)
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