Season 2010.03 F1800 Series

No special requirements for the number of your car. Just put on your skin whatever you want. Doesn't have to be related to what is written in gpcos. Numbers will be assigned in gpcos in a sequential way just to make it easier to read the results.

Andrea there will be a prequalification for race 1 ?

Here are the key points:

- 9 Circuits, 6 new tracks.
- Formula Ford 1800
- 2 races per event every Thursday
- qualification on the same day before each race
- No prequalification
- Groups based on the classification after each event
- Point system that should allow group swapping
- Points compensation for drivers that miss some races
- Points compensation for drivers that join the ongoing championship
- 2 drivers per team
- Drivers and Team classification

Hope that helps

For this championship we decided to avoid having prequalifications sessions.
We prefer that, during the days between races, all of you will spend much more time in racing sessions than in long practical sessions to get the best lap.
We don't want hotlap masters, but drivers with awareness of how to be on track with other drivers around.

For this reason we decided to have a completely different approach:
First Event: Montreal
we will create groups based on the following tables:



position will be taken selecting the position of the drivers of of our championship from the rank.

Is it important to be push for a better position on the rank? not really!!! Everything could change if some driver will not show up at the last moment.

The aim of this groups composition is to have:
- quite homogeneous groups in terms of drivers strength
- as many different drivers as possible in the same groups between race1 and race2
- homogeneous number of participants per group (with a minimum of 10 per group in case of 31 drivers)



Only for this first event in Montreal (for both race1 and race2) all groups will have the same point distribution (RSR_POINTS A)

This is our backup plan in case less than 30 people will show up on the racing day




Following Events:
We will create the groups based on the classification (in the order displayed in gpcos in case of drivers with the same number of points)
Group A: 1-15
Group B: 16-30
Group C: 31-45

Groups will be the same for the full event (Race1 and Race2) and will be re-arranged based on the new classification for the next event.


New drivers joining the championship during the season
will get the number of point of the first driver in group B - 40 points
this will allow him to go up or down in few races.
From a simulation I made an extremely fast guy joining at mid season always winning races in group B will be promoted in group A after 6 races.
I hope numbers will keep steady, and we will have always good number of drivers, but from previous experience, we want to make things interesting for drivers joining after few races, that would have been otherwise penalized by our pointing system.


We believe that our points system will allow to have quite a lot of changes during in the groups during the season in the middle field, but will allow the good drivers to end up racing together.

Entry List and Groups requirements


Here are the groups for Race1 and Race2 based on the current Rank positions, and allocations.

You can check the Entry List on our main page also (on the bottom left of www.radiators-champ.com there is a link "Entry List").

To be part of the race, there are 3 requirements:
- all drivers to have at least one ranked time on Montreal F1800 before the 31st of August.
- all drivers should be allocated in gpcos for this race.
- drivers that have a different name on the rank and on gpcos should communicate here asap. Name are listed in the tab NameConversion

For this championship it will be really important to place your allocation in GPCOS. Groups will be always based on the allocation. Please update it in case you want to participate to the race. If you can't race anymore, please update it again.

This will speed things up a lot during our briefing.


Please note that this Entry List page is not automatically refreshed based on rank/allocation, and will be updated from time to time.
Position on the rank to organize groups will be taken on the 31st August.

Please check the Entry List before going on track, because we might change it until the end of the briefing.

From the second event on, this process will be fully automated.

Italia Team Racing PRESENTE!!!!! (Anche se al debutto con le 1800, ma ci proviamo ugualmente)

Fortunato Catalano #7
Luca Malingambi #16

Sarebbe possibile sistemare i numeri Andrea? Grazie...

PS: Scusate l'assenza, ma dentro la "macchina" con queste temperature estive non riuscivo a stare per piu' di 2 minuti...

che bellissima notizia!! Bentornati ragazzi. Per i numeri, in gpcos assegneremo numeri di default, ma sulla vostra auto potrete avere il numero che volete.
Per favore mandateci le vostre skin appena possibile.

Andrea Lojelo wrote:che bellissima notizia!! Bentornati ragazzi. Per i numeri, in gpcos assegneremo numeri di default, ma sulla vostra auto potrete avere il numero che volete.
Per favore mandateci le vostre skin appena possibile.

Luca è già al lavoro, posteremo le skin 2010 al piu' presto possibile!

OMG Andrea,
since i don't like that group system ... that's the same of the 500 Trophy.
I want race with Riccardo but in this way it's impossible. For next race i think that i will rank the time that i want ... the same think we did for the 500 Abarth Trophy.

No Michele, i think you misunderstood. Those are the groups for the first event only(so race1 and race2). After that groups will be arranged every week based on the classification.
From what you guys demonstrated so far, you will be racing together all the time!!

Andrea Lojelo wrote:
Following Events:
We will create the groups based on the classification (in the order displayed in gpcos in case of drivers with the same number of points)
Group A: 1-15
Group B: 16-30
Group C: 31-45

Groups will be the same for the full event (Race1 and Race2) and will be re-arranged based on the new classification for the next event.

Ben tornati ITR

A ok perfect !!!
What about point system of group a b and c ?

you will find points here (end of the page).
Rules aren't final yet. I hope i will find some time to update them asap.

Argh, i think this is NOT right Andrea.

If i will second on rank ... so teoretical 2nd in race ... i will be in pool B and i'll take 18 points instead of 24 of the 2nd place of pool A !

I think that ONLY for first race the points would be the same for each group ...

The third in the rank ... will race in group C and of course he'll win the race ... and he'll score ONLY 9 points.

So in next race he'll race in group B.

And he was the third in the rank.

Please valute this system, i think it's no correct.

If you will be second on the rank you will not race with the strongest drivers (1-3) in both race 1 and race 2, so you can get (theoretically) 1st place in both races.

I think you missed an other important piece

Andrea Lojelo wrote:
Only for this first event in Montreal (for both race1 and race2) all groups will have the same point distribution (RSR_POINTS A)

Guys don't worry about the points system so much!
We will take care of everything, and I hope that this system will guarantee a more interesting championship for every one.

At the end everyone will have the same opportunity since we the method used it's the same for everyone. Everyone has his chance to get in the best position and get the most out of it.

We really want to experiment this method, because we think can give some good results. The only way to prove if will actually give the expected results, is trying it on a real league.
From some simulation I've done using this method on 2 groups it's giving some excellent results. I hope it will be the same in our real league.

Ahh ok

"Only for this first event in Montreal (for both race1 and race2) all groups will have the same point distribution (RSR_POINTS A)"

In this way it's perfect Andrea ! Sorry for misunderstandings

No worry mate

no problem! It was a long post. Easy to miss something! Of course I might have forgotten something also, in that case it's good to ask!

Andrea,
there is a way to fix the magnet effect of some wall in Montreal ?
It's very bad

As I wrote here, we are trying to fix it.
It's much more complex than I expected, because there are plenty of errors in those 3 tracks.

I would really appreciate your input on where are those sticky walls.

I know 2 at the moment, in turn 11 (left) and turn 14 on the right.

We know only that 2 places too

People don't be worried if Moretto is very fast.
I found the solution !

By the way, we need your (and everyone else's) skins!!
Post it here

Yes Andrea we are finishing the work on skins, when it's ready i'll upload in that thread.

great ....and great stopping...we will pay you after...