1.3.0 Beta incoming

Andrea Lojelo wrote:Kunos is working night and day on it

Are you sure about that (today on aviano)

I think he needs to relax sometimes.

henrizio wrote:Is there any change to get good FFB feeling back which we lost after 1.2 version?

KS2 never had that good sharp feeling like F2000 did. After 1.3B was out, F2000 got KS2 style FFB and lost most of its FFB details. There used to have that every bump and million detail feeling. Now it's just soft and stiff. Much less accurate.

totally agree, it's all cars NETKAR who inherited what is not awful in KS2 in version 1.03 b,
including FFB and supports exaggerated

Have all the problems of the collisions been solved? There are never failures?

Will shades be dynamic?

Will "Chat" have more capacity?

Olivier Boissel wrote:

Andrea Lojelo wrote:Kunos is working night and day on it

Are you sure about that (today on aviano)

I think he needs to relax sometimes.

That was a test

Andrea Lojelo wrote:Some actions from our testing sessions.

Do you have any doubts if the Vintage Replica is going to be a nice car to drive? I don't think you will after this video

Maarten is the stig

oops! if the netcode of the final version is consistent with what we see in this video! Congratulations!!!!! big change!!!!!! is quite what most of us are waiting!
Bravo Maarten your style is really unique

laurent resende wrote:oops! if the netcode of the final version is consistent with what we see in this video! Congratulations!!!!! big change!!!!!! is quite what most of us are waiting!
Bravo Maarten your style is really unique

yeah netcode seems 90% better +1

thanks for this hard work.

Collision seems a lot better, i hope little ghost bug or others big bang crash at start are gone.

ffb is allready very nice, when i read that it was better in rc i can't wait to test it

Does replay are @30fps ?

thanks kunos & testers.

Has anything been done to resolve issues caused by players from distant planets countries lagging and jumping about?

I know theres not much chance that anything can even be done, but it would be nice for our distant cousins to be able to kick my arse too.

Cédric Lagneau wrote:

Does replay are @30fps ?

thanks kunos & testers.

replays are still running in 30FPS since every release,
I think you meant 60FPS or even more.. ?

I think the framerate (30 FPS) is enough for replays, when you look your own car driving it + track look still smooth enough,
of course the remote cars are not, because of lag and less position informations.

Martin Hussey wrote:Has anything been done to resolve issues caused by players from distant planets countries lagging and jumping about?

I know theres not much chance that anything can even be done, but it would be nice for our distant cousins to be able to kick my arse too.

whenever i play against the aussies on any sim racing there is lag as they are just so far away and other than someone in india hosting it i dont see any solutions

andi goodwin wrote:

Martin Hussey wrote:Has anything been done to resolve issues caused by players from distant planets countries lagging and jumping about?

I know theres not much chance that anything can even be done, but it would be nice for our distant cousins to be able to kick my arse too.

whenever i play against the aussies on any sim racing there is lag as they are just so far away and other than someone in india hosting it i dont see any solutions

Obviously the distance is always going to be a problem. But there are games out there that handle the lag a lot better than netkar. Toca 3 is actually pretty good with 'normal' levels of lag, even Australian racers usually dont have a problem. But then it completely falls apart once levels start to increase and you're left with the pingpong ball in a corridor effect

Generally speaking theres not much of a chance of this being improved without completely tearing the netcode down and starting again. Not a huge amount of point in that at this stage in netKars lifespan.

lag has been improved, yes. the netcode has also been re-written.

stop being pessimistic martin

I've raced with Aussies in nKPro & its been fine, I thought the time difference was the biggest issue. Brazilian servers... thats a different matter. It was on a Brazilian server I went around someone only to see my car carry on & hit them , a very strange incident indeed.

MikaRaymond wrote:stop being pessimistic martin

Uh, i'm not? I mentioned something that *could* be improved, but its not a priority compared to other issues. You're reading too much into what i'm saying

No sense in demanding something that affects a tiny percentage of users, for a game which has a limited lifespan.

I think theres a difference between pessimistic and realistic.

I think NetKar has a much higher lifespan than all of the commercial games.. , so it makes much sense to fix things.

the life of NetKar depends largely, in my opinion, a development by its creator and publisher Kunos.
Then, one day if it allows, as it will cease to develop the creation of Mod! everything is possible

la durée de vie de NetKar depend essentiellement ,à mon avis ,a son développement par son créateur et éditeur Kunos .
ensuite ,si un jour il autorise ,car il cessera de le développer la création de Mod!!!tout est envisageable

Well, if 1.3 truely is the last big update for netKar as we know it, i'm sure Kunos is going to start working on the next version.

If that is the case, then i would imagine the netcode (netKode? ) would be completely started from scratch.

Mods would be fantastic. Although i'm not too sure what you would want to mod..

What i'd love to say is a trackday mod. Would be great to pick a track and allow users to join in whatever car they wanted.

Netcode for watching video on page 32 of this topic, I think the problem was largely solved!!!!! it is essential that we expect from this update I think, for future and the mods, it is primarily a problem of use of license agreements for use with various manufacturers and advertisers, and that costs money! so do not dream too much!! RFactor but if successful, why not NetKar!
Now that personally I very much look forward to is the change in the behavior of cars

pour le Netcode en regardant la video sur la page 32 de ce topic, je pense que le problème a été resolu en grande partie !!!!!c'est l'essentiel que nous attendons de cette mise à jour je pense, pour l'avenir et les mods ,c'est avant tout un probleme d'utilisation des accords de license d'utilisation avec les constructeurs et les différents annonceurs, et cela coute de l'argent!!! donc il ne faut pas trop rever!!!! mais si RFactor a réussi, pourquoi pas NetKar!
maintenant ce que personnellement j'attend avec beaucoup d'impatience c'est le changement dans le comportement des voitures

One of the most interesting things i've seen in racing games is the advertising boards in DiRT 2. They update over time, so you get different 'current' adverts in-game (Couple of weeks ago was the new harry potter). Could be a bit of a money maker for Kunos.

Martin Hussey wrote:What i'd love to say is a trackday mod. Would be great to pick a track and allow users to join in whatever car they wanted.

1.03 had mixed car racing, I dunno why this feature went. With the Formula Fords it would be cool, to have demo users in the F1600, who are at the back out the way & have an incentive to buy a license (to catch the faster F1800's). In 1.03 you could also run add-on tracks under demo, so a mixed championship like this wouldn't work now.

I hate in-game advertising. Wipeout on the PS3 for example gives you trailers during loading screens, it puts me off playing it. I couldn't give a to$$ about the latest Harry Pothead Fantasy Rip-off

Its so out of the way its almost subliminal. Theres no obvious advertising, but the ad boards and banners on railings etc change to keep up with the latest 'big thing'. Could limit it to only advertise computer hardware/peripherals, for example.

Its a good way to raise money for development, without drawing it out of our pockets. Well, not directly anyway.

Martin Hussey wrote:Theres no obvious advertising, but the ad boards and banners on railings etc change to keep up with the latest 'big thing'.

So not like SRT I dunno what the deal's with the current advertising in nKPro, if it was a give us a mention occasionally type thing Also the TrackIR skin etc. (maybe they sent Kunos one years ago ). I'm not trying to poo poo your idea Martin but advertisers want exposure, so I imagine the nKPro audience would be too small.

Subliminal advertising is the best kind of advertising

The TrackIR ad has been there forever.

Anyway, has there been anything more than speculation on when the update is coming?

Yes