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Leonardo Ratafia
MikaRaymond
Pobb R Tippet
laurent resende
Wally Masterson
M Waechter
Martin Hussey
Jamie Shorting
andi goodwin
henrizio
davide zardin
M Carey
paul thomas
Attilio Barba
Tomas Torasen
René Lorig
Marco Calesella
mario gilles
Kristijan Jalovec Perusko
giancarlo graziano
Sergio Marques
Andrea Lojelo
Simon Bevcic-batina
27 posters
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M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°46
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Mods keep games alive, & just like with nKPro & other titles, you quickly discover which are worth downloading.
henrizio- Driver
- Posts : 59
Join date : 2010-09-22
- Post n°47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fkQOHEkLBk&
I wasn't the biggest fan of FVA, but I would take those tracks anytime.
I wasn't the biggest fan of FVA, but I would take those tracks anytime.
Wally Masterson- Driver
- Posts : 47
Join date : 2011-03-11
- Post n°49
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The question is, what is Kunos going to do about all of this? Ignore it? Waste time trying to stop this kind of thing - time that could be better spent on development? Or head it off at the pass and just release the FVA cars in nkPro (if he can)?
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°50
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Kunos is just the developer, FVA's Ferrari's product.
andi goodwin- Driver
- Posts : 30
Join date : 2011-04-12
Age : 56
Location : sivergues , south france
- Post n°51
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M Carey wrote:Kunos is just the developer, FVA's Ferrari's product.
and Ferrari is just Fiat's product .... ;o)
Andrea Lojelo- ---
- Posts : 12576
Join date : 2009-04-26
Age : 45
Location : Den Haag
- Post n°52
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guys, at the end of the day there is no game that hasn't been cracked/opened in a way or an other.
from 3DSimEd website
3DSimEd is a visual tool allowing you to import data from many different formats of racing simulators including Race 07, GTR Evolution, STCC The Game, GTR2, rFactor, GTL, GTR, Papyrus Nascar 2003 & Grand Prix Legends (GPL), Formula 1 2002 (F1 2002), Formula 1 Career Challenge (F1 CC), Nascar SimRacing, Race Driver Grid, TOCA Race Driver, Nascar Heat, Viper Racing and many other racing simulator formats. A range of simple editing tools are available to allow you to modify data. Your models can then be saved to Race 07, GTR Evolution, GTR2, rFactor, GTL, N2003, GTR, Nascar Heat, Viper Racing and F1CC/F1-2002 formats.
When I bought F1 2010 in preorder to try it as soon as I could (I was pretty curious), I've been really disappointed to see that cracked game could be downloaded even before the game was released!
It took 1 year before someone got interested into FVA, and 5 before the same person got interested into nKPRO.
Any software house knows that there is virtually no way to stop those things to happen. There are really talented guys out there!
from 3DSimEd website
3DSimEd is a visual tool allowing you to import data from many different formats of racing simulators including Race 07, GTR Evolution, STCC The Game, GTR2, rFactor, GTL, GTR, Papyrus Nascar 2003 & Grand Prix Legends (GPL), Formula 1 2002 (F1 2002), Formula 1 Career Challenge (F1 CC), Nascar SimRacing, Race Driver Grid, TOCA Race Driver, Nascar Heat, Viper Racing and many other racing simulator formats. A range of simple editing tools are available to allow you to modify data. Your models can then be saved to Race 07, GTR Evolution, GTR2, rFactor, GTL, N2003, GTR, Nascar Heat, Viper Racing and F1CC/F1-2002 formats.
When I bought F1 2010 in preorder to try it as soon as I could (I was pretty curious), I've been really disappointed to see that cracked game could be downloaded even before the game was released!
It took 1 year before someone got interested into FVA, and 5 before the same person got interested into nKPRO.
Any software house knows that there is virtually no way to stop those things to happen. There are really talented guys out there!
Andrea Lojelo- ---
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Age : 45
Location : Den Haag
- Post n°53
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some time ago in a discussion on the CD-Check that SimBin requested for all conversion of their contents to other games, Kunos said.
that translated is:
In that topic someone was complaining about the hypocrisy (in their view) of the cd-check.
Kunos on DrivingItalia wrote:
da sviluppatore... se qualcuno si convertisse il mugello di FVA o la Abarth di nkpro per rFactor mi farebbe MOLTO piacere se questo qualcuno inserisse un ipocrita "nkCheck" nell'installer.
that translated is:
Kunos on DrivingItalia tranlated wrote:
as a developer, if anyone would ever convert Mugello from FVA or the nkpro Abarth in rFactor, I would love that an hypocric "nkCheck" was present on the installer
In that topic someone was complaining about the hypocrisy (in their view) of the cd-check.
henrizio- Driver
- Posts : 59
Join date : 2010-09-22
- Post n°54
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Wally Masterson wrote:The question is, what is Kunos going to do about all of this? Ignore it? Waste time trying to stop this kind of thing - time that could be better spent on development? Or head it off at the pass and just release the FVA cars in nkPro (if he can)?
Kegetys posted about FVA in finnish forum. He is not gonna release it.
Sergio Marques- Driver
- Posts : 141
Join date : 2010-11-17
Age : 55
Location : Portugal
- Post n°55
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It was FVA that make me look into NetKar and after bought it, it's been a long time since I don't use FVA anymore, no point in use it just for hotlaps, so it would be nice that Kunos and Ferrari made an agreement that who had bought FVA could also use it in Netkar.
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°56
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FVA was cracked the day after release (iirc). From what other people have told me (so don't quote me on this ) Kunos has been fairly threatening with this kind of thing, for example when the Formula Ford was converted to rFactor. With FVA being Ferrari's (sorry Andi - Fiat's ) I guess it would be up to them to take any legal action. Even then I don't know what "crime" has been committed SimBin are generally tolerant of their content being ported between their titles, but as FVA is supposed to be a separate product, Ferrari might not be. IF the FVA content was converted to another sim' like rF then that would be a bad thing. As it stands I don't really see a major problem with this, unless if affects FVA sales (but as it isn't gonna be released it shouldn't) or if it affects any further work Kunos might not get.
P.S. I seem to recall someone being sued or at least threatened for converting a Ferrari from another game (can't remember the details though).
P.S. I seem to recall someone being sued or at least threatened for converting a Ferrari from another game (can't remember the details though).
Marco Calesella- Driver
- Posts : 220
Join date : 2010-09-15
Location : Schio (VI) Italy
- Post n°57
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Out of the legal aspects, I think that a straight conversion of the FVA car could be not really easy since it should be checked if the physic work in the correct way also in teh netKar engine.
I strongly suspect it could be necessary some tweaks to make it working like a F1 car in the new "environment".
Different topic is about the tracks, that should technically work without problems also in netKar.
I really would like to have finally Fiorano on netKar...
I strongly suspect it could be necessary some tweaks to make it working like a F1 car in the new "environment".
Different topic is about the tracks, that should technically work without problems also in netKar.
I really would like to have finally Fiorano on netKar...
laurent resende- Driver
- Posts : 634
Join date : 2009-11-06
Age : 73
Location : Rouen
- Post n°58
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Attention! in terms of money, its brand image and its properties copyright Ferrari not kidding! is almost worse than Eclestone with F1!!!!!! and they have an army of lawyers available to them!!!!!
Ferrari owns the FVA! Kunos is the supplier and manufacturer ( on behalf of Ferrari ) of the FVA
At each draw conclusions for a possible conversion is not authorized by Ferrari !!!!!!
attention !!!en matière d'argent,,d'image de sa Marque et de ses propriétés copyright Ferrari ne plaisante pas!!!c'est presque pire que Eclestone avec la F1!!!!!! et ils ont une armée d'avocat à leur disposition !!!!!
Ferrari est propriétaire de la FVA!! Kunos n'est que le fournisseur et fabricant (pour le compte de Ferrari) de la FVA
A chacun d'en tirer les conclusions pour une éventuelle conversion non autorisé par Ferrari
Ferrari owns the FVA! Kunos is the supplier and manufacturer ( on behalf of Ferrari ) of the FVA
At each draw conclusions for a possible conversion is not authorized by Ferrari !!!!!!
attention !!!en matière d'argent,,d'image de sa Marque et de ses propriétés copyright Ferrari ne plaisante pas!!!c'est presque pire que Eclestone avec la F1!!!!!! et ils ont une armée d'avocat à leur disposition !!!!!
Ferrari est propriétaire de la FVA!! Kunos n'est que le fournisseur et fabricant (pour le compte de Ferrari) de la FVA
A chacun d'en tirer les conclusions pour une éventuelle conversion non autorisé par Ferrari
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°59
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By the looks of it the guy swapped some files with the KS2 to make it work. The tracks should work fine, as we did see Kunos' server running Nurburgring (& this mystery 911cup car), & also if you open Mugello & Nurburgring in a text editor you see the paths C:\nkpro11beta3\tracks\mugello\texture & D:\graphics\nurburgring-nkpro\texture.
laurent resende- Driver
- Posts : 634
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Age : 73
Location : Rouen
- Post n°60
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Ferrari have released a free simulation called " Virtual Race Ferrari " with a version ( superbe!!) Mugello, one can conduct different version of the current Ferrari road
but the simulation at the level of feelings is really very bad! by against the graphics are amazing
I have personal but must be checked on their site if it is still available
but the simulation at the level of feelings is really very bad! by against the graphics are amazing
I have personal but must be checked on their site if it is still available
laurent resende- Driver
- Posts : 634
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Age : 73
Location : Rouen
- Post n°61
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name simu" Ferrari virtual Race"
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°62
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I tried it, it was ok to play with the keyboard, anything else it was horrid with
laurent resende- Driver
- Posts : 634
Join date : 2009-11-06
Age : 73
Location : Rouen
- Post n°63
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M Carey wrote:I tried it, it was ok to play with the keyboard, anything else it was horrid with
I just made two or three laps, although it supports the G27, but what he is feeling at the bad!!!!! lol
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°65
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Another person has managed it?
EDIT: No hands & the head looks a bit big but apart from that it looks good!
EDIT: No hands & the head looks a bit big but apart from that it looks good!
Pobb R Tippet- Driver
- Posts : 71
Join date : 2011-10-02
Age : 40
Location : Bristol England
- Post n°66
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HOLY PANTS!!!! awesomeeeeeee! F1 car(s) in netkar... could be a brilliant league
I actually drooled on my keyboard a little bit
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I actually drooled on my keyboard a little bit
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MikaRaymond- Driver
- Posts : 673
Join date : 2010-11-16
Age : 32
Location : Blackburn, England
- Post n°68
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is it based on the ks2? what kind of setup adjustments can you make? does it use 30 wings or max 17?
M Carey- Driver
- Posts : 1076
Join date : 2010-04-20
- Post n°69
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The KS2 is based on the F10. You can see some setup options in kegetys video.
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Age : 54
Location : Berlin
- Post n°70
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looks amazing
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