by Martin Hussey Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:37 pmAlso, a mandatory intelligence system needs to be introduced, to stop retards being allowed on track.[/rant]
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laurent resende
Paul O'Brien
M Waechter
Michele Campini
Ulus Ulusalonur
Sergio Marques
MikaRaymond
Martin Hussey
Filippo Chesi
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Barcelona 2010
Martin Hussey- Driver
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putting barriers everywhere really doesn't fix the problem. It's easy to remove them.Martin Hussey wrote:I know we shouldnt need the barrier on the last corners to stop cutting, but there was just one guy who cut the corner every lap. i had to park at the side of the track to stop him taking the shortcut and cheating. Really needs a barrier there
Further more, it's not possible to do any modification on this track (only few using the koflite) since Albert lost the 3d file for some problems to his pc.
laurent resende- Driver
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make a huge bump on the track at this endoit proposing the car into the wall, small malignant unable to go fast without cheating once not try both!!
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Gah. thats a shame. Guy called D Map. Cut the corner every lap to get 1st, nearly took me out coming back on track after the cut. I parked up on the corner to block the cut, and he still tried it. needs a ban.
laurent resende- Driver
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you out of the race Martin, as it will be the first all alone !!!!! more victory will not be approved
laurent resende- Driver
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Martin also said we her name, every time What's the cross we do not run with him
Martin Hussey- Driver
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Sorry mate, didnt understand that :/
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Martin Hussey wrote:Gah. thats a shame. Guy called D Map. Cut the corner every lap to get 1st, nearly took me out coming back on track after the cut. I parked up on the corner to block the cut, and he still tried it. needs a ban.
We should simply ban those people, if they are cutting there in quali and / or race. We simply have to look the replay (and laptimes) afterwards the event and if someone cuts there, just ban those or at least take them out of the race's classification, or put them on the last position of the final race's classification afterwards and giving no points to them ... !
MikaRaymond- Driver
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people who cheat shouldnt be allowed to participate and / or be banned, simple 
a bit off-topic from what youre talking about, but just out of curiosity, what kind of laptimes are you guys running race-pace wise?
a bit off-topic from what youre talking about, but just out of curiosity, what kind of laptimes are you guys running race-pace wise?
Martin Hussey- Driver
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during the race, 1m29's. during qualy, 1m25-6's
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if we see people cutting this people will be not only dnq also banned for couple races if not banned from the championship
laurent resende- Driver
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Albert right decision!
Michele Campini- Driver
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Albert and Laurent, some guys don't know that he's in mistake cutting there.
Simple there's not any "wall" or similar to people rightly think that the right way is the external corner.
Not all the guys watch the F1 in tv
Simple there's not any "wall" or similar to people rightly think that the right way is the external corner.
Not all the guys watch the F1 in tv
M Carey- Driver
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Found a hole here (the final piece of the gravel trap).
Last edited by M Carey on Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:01 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Albert posted a fix.)
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o i will post a track map in the main post so everyone see the track layout
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guys last hole found fixed, added in first post fix 1.2
Albert McSaltens- Driver
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new fix 1.3 sorry for so many fixes guys just found ne hole
so fixed it hopefully no more
so fixed it hopefully no more
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I think I find so many because I regularly fly so far off the roadAlbert McSaltens wrote:new fix 1.3 sorry for so many fixes guys just found ne hole
so fixed it hopefully no more
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Michele Campini wrote:Albert and Laurent, some guys don't know that he's in mistake cutting there.
Simple there's not any "wall" or similar to people rightly think that the right way is the external corner.
Not all the guys watch the F1 in tv
Hi all.
I knew this track but didn't know this news chicane at the end, so if the first moment of trainning I was on the wrong way.
It's only when I was behind other driver's that I realised my mystake
Olivier Boissel- Driver
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Michele Campini wrote:Some guys ask me the set on the server so i've decided to share it.
It's an hotlap set, so a lot oversteering, how i love the sets.
If u find it too many oversteering simple decrease rear antiroll from 34 to 20 per example.
My pb is 23 low.
This is an onboard lap, not fast cause fps problem during "live" capture, but i hope can help u.
The set:
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The onboard:
Thank's for sharing
Michele Campini- Driver
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Olivier Boissel wrote:
Thank's for sharing
NP mate.
Remember this: after a training of 40-50 lap with the same car in the same track, u can improve your PB ...
- of 1 or more seconds ONLY with a better setup;
- of 1/10 or 2/10 of seconds only with other training.
So the setup is very very important.
Since i start to love SIM 3 or 4 year ago, using Live for Speed.
One think that i love until today of LFS is that peoples share his setup quickly. For example there are a lot of website that are real online setup databases where guys can download and try so many kind of setups.
It could be fantastic that someone will built something of similar for NetKar Pro. Yes, there's some setup online in Jaap Rank ... but only some and for only some track and circuit
Often can happens, for examples, that u could be a fast drivers, but u don't know how build a good setup so if u do not find a good setup ... u can only go slowest
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Michele Campini wrote:Olivier Boissel wrote:
Thank's for sharing
NP mate.
Remember this: after a training of 40-50 lap with the same car in the same track, u can improve your PB ...
- of 1 or more seconds ONLY with a better setup;
- of 1/10 or 2/10 of seconds only with other training.
So the setup is very very important.
Maybe it's because I'm usually quite slow compare to the aliens, and I'm a slow learner, but with some training I usually go down seconds from my original time.
In a week I can improve, using the same setup quite a lot (and still being seconds from the aliens
), just because I learn how to handle the car better.Michele Campini wrote:
Since i start to love SIM 3 or 4 year ago, using Live for Speed.
One think that i love until today of LFS is that peoples share his setup quickly. For example there are a lot of website that are real online setup databases where guys can download and try so many kind of setups.
It could be fantastic that someone will built something of similar for NetKar Pro. Yes, there's some setup online in Jaap Rank ... but only some and for only some track and circuit
Often can happens, for examples, that u could be a fast drivers, but u don't know how build a good setup so if u do not find a good setup ... u can only go slowest
I agree, there is not an easy way to share setups so far.
I think it would be a nice good practice if anyone will share theirs, during or just after an event
Olivier Boissel- Driver
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I come from GPL sim's and I remember that a lot of alien driver's shared their setup even before the event.
During the race, they were at the front
cause when your an alien ......
The problem is that a lot of driver like me don' t know where in the begining to improve setup and it's not easy under NKPro, there is a lot of value for the KS2.
During the race, they were at the front
cause when your an alien ......Michele Campini wrote:
NP mate.
Remember this: after a training of 40-50 lap with the same car in the same track, u can improve your PB ...
- of 1 or more seconds ONLY with a better setup;
- of 1/10 or 2/10 of seconds only with other training.
So the setup is very very important.
The problem is that a lot of driver like me don' t know where in the begining to improve setup and it's not easy under NKPro, there is a lot of value for the KS2.
Michele Campini- Driver
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@Andrea,
it depends from driver to driver.
Usually after 10-12 laps u know the track and the brake point.
After other 20-30 laps u know perfect the line and u've know where are your setup limits.
So when track is learned u can work in the setup to "hear" and "try" all the modification u want.
But when u do a test u need work 1 hour minimun on that, not 10 minutes today, 10 minutes tomorrow etc etc because every time is like that u start from zero.
About setups ... u have a beautiful website, now a great portal (and a fuck chat
) and so u can think to an "upload setup tools".
If u use joomla there are a lot of addon to manage downloads/uploads.
@Olivier,
right, KS2 setup is very hard to learn and sometime when u change a value to "search" one particular behavior of the car ... when u drive the car u've the exacttly opposite effect ... a this is very annoying !
it depends from driver to driver.
Usually after 10-12 laps u know the track and the brake point.
After other 20-30 laps u know perfect the line and u've know where are your setup limits.
So when track is learned u can work in the setup to "hear" and "try" all the modification u want.
But when u do a test u need work 1 hour minimun on that, not 10 minutes today, 10 minutes tomorrow etc etc because every time is like that u start from zero.
About setups ... u have a beautiful website, now a great portal (and a fuck chat
) and so u can think to an "upload setup tools".If u use joomla there are a lot of addon to manage downloads/uploads.
@Olivier,
right, KS2 setup is very hard to learn and sometime when u change a value to "search" one particular behavior of the car ... when u drive the car u've the exacttly opposite effect ... a this is very annoying !
Ulus Ulusalonur- Driver
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Michele Campini thanks,I mixed mine with setups and hotlap 1.25 
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